Two-handed tapping - "Fortepiannaja tiechnika" Опции

[Adam Fulara (гость)]

Zdrastwujcie! Maja familia: Adam Fulara. Ja tschitaju pa Ruskij, but it isn't very comfortable to me writting in this language (I have standard keyboard etc.) I'm new here (I had been reading but never writing posts)... I'm from Poland (I live in Ostrzeszуw), and I play the guitar with two-handed tapping technique. I opened new version of my www site: http://adam.fulara.com (in English and Polish) There are new resources, Polish tappers directory etc. If You have never been at this site I recommend Videos from exploring Two-necked guitar, and some MP3s - So What, BWV 784,.... I know, that there is a lot of guitar players influenced by Dmitri Maloletov (Rycar Gitary) and Enver Izmailov (my favourite) in Russia. What You think about my new web site??? Skaschitie paschoulsta! (pa Ruskij or in English albo po Polsku). Best regards to all guitar.ru subscribers. Adam Fulara

[Adam Fulara (гость)]

Sorry for stupid hashes (w tjemu), I tried write "Fortepiannaja tiechnika" pa Ruskij, I don't know what happends....

[Alexandre (гость)]

It"s cool

[ДаунЪ (гость)]

I've listened the "So What" mp3 and wanna know, what is the sense in two-handed technique if you can play the same things (and even better) in standart "one-hand" way? IMHO "So What" is too primitive.

[Adam 2 Тень :) (гость)]

>I can play piano, and piano players play both hands absolutly independently from one another. That's just not like this when you play tapping. I gradaute music school in accordion and piano class too and I can't uderstand Yours point of view... Could You explain to me what You mean telling: "both hands absolutly independently" ??? Why my hands aren't?? Where is a different? Did You saw short video files?? (700 kB) for example: http://www.adam.fulara.com/gitara/Adam_Fulara-prel-4.avi IMO hands ARE independens if You play Two-Handed (not rock) tapping.

[Adam Fulara (гость)]

>you can play the same things (and even better) in standart "one-hand" way? There are many points of view. Firstone-is Yours, secound: why piano-players are playing using two hands? There are music tunes and situations when You can't play in Duet with other guitar or piano. For example "RUBATO" in Chopin pieces - think about Chopin Etudes played by guitar-duet. They can't play good rubato. Other way: Do You play jazz??? There is very important reason when You soling, and comping at the same time: If You play over any Dominant chord You could play alterated modes (for example using whole-tone scale at dominant-triton substitution). Then in background You should hear altered dominant chord (flat five), but if Your pianist isn't very skilled he will play standard dominant chord (for example X7 or X79) and we hear a kick. This is a great power of new possibilites to join chords and modes when improvising.... What You think??? I know! I'm not very skilled yet, but So What is realy old piece to me, and soon will be next with my trio available. Thanks, regards

[Тень 2 ДаунЪ (гость)]

Да-да, я тоже об этом думал, еще когда слушал Стэнли Джордана, все очень мило, но зачем непонятно, это типа как фокус такой: а я вот так могу играть, о музыке как-то речи уже не идет (что-то я не видел чтобы Меттени Скофилд или Маклафлин итд. играли тэппингом, я к тому что реально выдающиеся музыканты и композитор этим делом не балуются - это только мешает, сковывает).

[Hellcrown (гость)]

I didn't hear this ''So What. mp3'' but I like very much caver version of this one recorded by Metallica. Is it the same?

[Alexandre (гость)]

Темпинг мне кажется-это определенный стиль игры на инструменте, вот и все. Как бы способ выражения музыки человека. Не лучше не хуже , чем медиаторная или пальцевая техника. Какая разница лиж бы в кайф музон был.

[Тень 2 Adam (гость)]

Guitar is not a piano. I mean I'm not against tapping, I'll be happy to hear something really worthy from the tappers, but I have not yet. Maybe It's good for classical arrangements, but not for improvising where you should feel absolutly free. I can play piano, and piano players play both hands absolutly independently from one another. That's just not like this when you play tapping.

[Тень (гость)]

Металика исполняющая SO WHAT - это круто!!!:):)

[Adam Fulara (гость)]

>Is it the same? No it's Miles Davis "So What" - older jazz standard mode piece (not bebop). Тень 2> Either Metheny, Scofield nor MacLaughlin didn't play with two-handed techique - that's true. But they also didn't play violin or cello (If You know what I means). This is other world, not easy but I think that it is possibile to have good sound and play great phrases with this kind of technique.

[Тень (гость)]

What I meant is when you play tapping your hand are tiede together. I.g. you play E (1 st. 12 fr. hammer) then you play Ab (1 st. 4 fr. pull) then D (2 st. 15 fr. hammer) and at the same time you suold pla G7 and Fm7 with your left hand hammering. You see what I mes is you should think over so many many things before playing that stuff. When you tap you can play only with preliminary prepared patches and lines. Stanly Jordan when he really inprovizes slides back to traditional. When you play piano you don't have those problems, your hands feel free from each other (though I'm a self-taught pianist). You play two necks that puts you closer to pianist but that's not quite tapping then. You've got the point?

[ДаунЪ (гость)]

> I know! I'm not very skilled yet< Yeah. that's right. That's the point. I think there is someone, who playing two-handed tapping so it sounds really Reasonable! Am I right?

[Adam Fulara (гость)]

>You play two necks that puts you closer to pianist but that's not quite tapping then. You've got the point? Yes, You have right. IMHO better name is "touch technique", I don't use neither Pull-offs nor Hammer-ons. I think that great freedom in improvisation is to control harmony and melody lines together (only IMHO). ДаунЪ - There is some cool players (as I wrote D. Maloletov, and others), but they are not as great as J. Coltrane, M. Davis or even Pat Martino was.... ДаунЪ, maybe You know cool tappers? Which musicians (at all) are realy great in Your opinion??

[Тень 2 Adam (гость)]

ДаунЪ said "reasonable" not "great", sorry to interfere I know no tapper as great as Trane, Miles, Metheney, Montgomery, Django, Jaco, Bill Evans, Bird, McLaughlin, Mingus, Ellington, Garbarek and so on, these guys are musicians in a primary sense, they ARE music.

[Модератор (гость)]

Ну типа вэлкам,всем польским товарищам на форум,но язык общения тут всётаки русский.Постарайтесь,ну хоть как нибудь.

[Adam Fulara (гость)]

Sory, ja postaraju pisat' pa Ruskij.